What makes P4Win better than P4V? – P4V deficiencies


P4V deficiencies compared to P4Win

Here’s list of P4V deficiencies & features missing as compared to P4Win…  

1). In P4V you can’t paste paths onto the tree view as way to quickly navigate to items. The nearest equivalent is to paste in to the address bar but that has the annoying side effect of switching between workspace/depot view depending on the format of the address. 

2). P4V has an inferior (broken) ability to copy paths from depot treeview using Crtl+C. P4V copies the string in a totally un-usable format, P4Win copies it ready for use in command line P4 operations etc. 

3). P4V has inferior drag/drop of filenames from treeview. P4Win allows you to drag/drop filenames in local workspace syntax. P4V on the other hand drags/drops in depot syntax – there does not seem to be any way to quickly get filenames in workspace syntax. 

4). P4V can’t integrate a selection of files, it can only integrate single files or entire folders. 

5). P4V doesn’t provide the ability to sort pending changelist by criteria. 

6). P4V doesn’t offer safe automatic merge when integrating a single file. 

7). P4V doesn’t have a default resolve type. 

8). P4V doesn’t allow use of Enter/Ctrl+Enter to select the default action in dialogs (instead you have to use a mouse or press TAB several times). 

9). Many dialogs lack a Cancel button but escape key, in many cases, does the same thing. 

10). P4V suffers from a general lack of keyboard shortcuts (like Ctrl+Shift+M for resolve). 

11). P4V provides no way to “p4 set” defaults and hence interoperates badly with command prompts and scripts. 

13). P4V has lacks command line features of P4Win. 

14). And finally, IMO, P4V is just a more cluttered interface, you spend forever having to resize, switch views and generally fiddle with things. P4Win was fine!But 2008.2 beta release notes that several more dialogs and column-width settings are remembered now 

15). P4V bookmarks no longer cross depots and don’t have keyboard shortcuts. Under P4Win, I constantly switch my current window between depots and file areas using keyboard shortcuts. I have no idea why P4V separates favorites from bookmarks with neither doing the whole job.Favorites is also intent on opening a new app each time rather than just switching which just clutters my desktop. P4V needs the more powerful bookmark function from P4Win. 

16). There is no P4V “resync to same changelist” menu item. I use this frequently when I am testing something and want to wipe out the source and generated binaries and do a quick re-sync. 

17). There is no P4V menu item to update an existing client’s view from another client. We use this all the time with P4Win to update client views from template clients. 

18). P4V does not show the “Explore” and “Command Prompt here” context menus for folders—just for files. I often use this to open a window for the current folder to do something. 

19). Popping up an editor for a file that is not open for edit no longer says read-only with the revision number in the caption bar in P4V. AuthorRobert Pitt & Barry Wilks

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The P4Win Window Navigation | P4Win Navigation Guide


The P4Win Screen 

The P4Win screen resembles the Windows Explorer. The following diagram points out the main portions of the screen. Each pane is described in detail in the following sections.  

The Depot Pane

Depot contents are displayed in a tree in the left pane.

Picture DepotPane:

Some navigation hints:

Multiple selections: Shift-click to select contiguous items, Ctrl-click to select noncontiguousitems.

Select next/previous: Up and down arrows traverse the current level, and right and leftarrows move the cursor up and down through the folder hierarchy.

Open a selected folder: Use the asterisk (*) key on the numeric keypad.You can control which files are displayed in the depot pane. For example, you might want to restrict the list of files to display only the files for the project you’re working on, or conversely, you might want to see every file in every depot. The scope is controlled by your client specification and the view you choose for the depot pane.

The Right PaneThe right pane displays changelists, jobs, client specifications, users, labels or branch specifications. To change the display, click the corresponding toolbar button.  

The ToolbarThe P4Win toolbar contains buttons that provide shortcuts for common P4Winoperations. However, there’s a menu equivalent for every button on the toolbar. Note that buttons are gray if an operation is not available. For example, some operations require you to select a file first. If no file is selected, the button (and the corresponding menu item)are gray. Here’s what the buttons do: 


The Status PaneIn the status pane at the bottom of the screen, P4Win displays the commands it sends to the Perforce server, the results of operations, and, for some P4Win operations, lists ofinformation.  

P4Win FormsTo define changelists, users, workspaces, labels, jobs, and branches, you enter information into forms displayed by P4Win. For example, the following figure shows the changelistform.  

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Introduction of p4win | p4win Overview | What is p4win?


P4Win is a Windows-Explorer-style program that helps you manage files that are stored in the Perforce software configuration management system. Using P4Win, you can view files, check them in and out, compare them, and handle conflicts that arise in team development settings. P4Win is highly configurable, and you can add custom tools to the P4Win menu to perform specialized tasks.This guide helps you get started with P4Win, and tells you how to perform the basic tasks you’re likely to want to do on the first day you start working with P4Win. For details about using P4Win, refer to its online help system: from the P4Win Help menu, choose the Help Topics menu item, or press the F1 key.

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